Doug Henwood dhenwood at
Wed Dec 2 07:52:57 PST 1998

[This bounced because it was posted from an address different from the subscription address. I'd say about 1/2 the residents of my apartment building on the upper west side of Manhattan have a "cleaning lady" come in once a week (me *not* among them), and none of them are "rich" by Max's narrow definition. These "servants" seem mostly to be recent immigrants from Latin America and the Caribbean - one of the upsides of structural adjustment for metropolitan populations, I guess.]

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Max, you wrote: "and full-time servants are pretty much out of the question."

Without really knowing, it seemed to me that the post about the income and life-style of the top quintile was way off (I'm referring to the post you responded to). So, I waited to hear someone quote the facts. Thanks.

But still, I'm just wondering about the servant thing, especially with respect to places like Los Angeles. I got the impression when I lived there that the well-to-do middle classes could easily afford au pair "girls" and maids (who also cook). I rather thought I was seeing the shape of things to come, and predicted to a friend that in twenty years, being middle-class all over the country would be more like what it was for the Victorians. Of course, I didn't mean it really. I have no predictions to make - but just as a manner of speaking, to say something about the way things seem to be changing.

What was the percentage of middle-class people in the Victorian period? Maybe in the future, the middle-classes will live much more comfy, but their numbers will shrink?


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