newbie on Participatory Economics

Brett Knowlton brettk at
Tue Jul 21 10:07:32 PDT 1998

Who is Vandana Shiva?

At 12:51 PM 7/21/98 -0400, you wrote:
>I appreciate the replies from Doug and Louis. A couple points. First, for
>1) Vandana Shiva is not Malthus. There also seem (to me) to be some
>important differences between mainstream western environmental groups and
>like Shiva. We have to be a little more discerning here.
>2) Isn't almost anyone on an e-mail discussion list relatively privileged?
>Maybe some people are typing from the public library, but in any case, in
>countries of Africa, Southern Asia, etc., there is a very different class
>structure that means that just about any political activist or writer that
>communicates issues to a Western audience will be privileged in some
>sense. Ok, so people don't have to take first class, but it is not always
>clear--to me--where the line should be drawn and when the distinction is
>useful and when it is not.
>There are some catch-22s and some dangers of double standards here, or
>just a question about what are the most productive issues on which to
>focus. I can imagine one can set standards in such a way as to end
>up...well, alone. This may not be the most productive political
>I was not aware of anti-marxism on Shiva's part, but she certainly seems
>anti-capitalist. Generally, she would seem someone who would be included
>in the kind of broad based coalition you described recently in the ParEcon

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