LBO-talk's fast becoming a hangout for leftists who have religious fetishes. You might rename the list 'left religious observer'! What happened to the meeting ground between marxism and kinky sex? I think I am gonna call Ralph Nader and complain of the lack of truth in advertising! :)
Then again, most leftists seem to me to be gluttons for punishment, so having religious authority chastise them for their political failures might improve their sex life.
Yoshie