(1) The issue has not been hashed at all on this list. The whole list is new though many of us know each other having been on other lists together.
(2) It is an issue which can never be hashed too much, though I think it can only be partly answered in "thought." And one essential feature of maillists is that our discussions are necessarily in abstraction from any shared practice. This goes against the grain of marxism, but need not be crippling if we always remember it and do not begin to treat a maillist as though it were the Political Committee of the Central Committee of an m-l party.
That said, I would like, now, to respond to just one element in your post. You write:
> [SNIP]
> If the working class was fully class conscious,
The "revolution" would be a thing of the past and we would be in the midst of the transition from socialism to communism.
I want to respond more fully in other posts to the question some have already raised on the old but ever renewable theme of "reform" and "revolution" (I think it, *AT THIS TIME*, a false theme, but "translatable" into questions relevant now). So the immediate primary question is not what it would be to be "fully class conscious," but rather what struggles can we initiate now (or join in with) that will both be desirable in themselves AND HAVE THE INTERNAL POTENTIAL TO MOVE CLASS CONSCIOUSNESS FORWARD. That probably requires a hazy answer to the more far-reaching questions you raise, but I would argue that only a "hazy answer" is either available or needed now.
Carrol