Virtual Polibureau Debate

Henry C.K. Liu hliu at mindspring.com
Thu Nov 26 11:52:00 PST 1998


David Dorkin:

Dr. Sun Yat-sen, leader of the bourgeois democratic revolution of 1911, founder of the social democratic (at least in vision) Republic of China, founding head of the KMT, whose "Three People's Principle (Nationalism, Democracy and Wefare)" is a soical democartic program, was as close to a EU type social demacratic as any Chinese can be. The vision failed, albeit for very complex reasons, and the KMT turned fascist. A similar example is Weimar Germany of the 1920s which gave way to the Nazi era.

Henry C.K. Liu

david dorkin wrote:


> Henry C.K. Liu wrote:
> > The current EU type of "social democrat" socialism had been tried in China in the early days of the Nationalist Party, before it turned fascist. It did not work for very
> > complex reasons.
>
> It is certainly not the case that European social democracy has been
> "tried " in China
>
> > But the fact remained it did not work. Social democratic systems,
> > when they fail, naturally invite fascism, as history has shown.
>
> History has shown nothing of the sort



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