My particular email system (WordPerfect Office, late Neocene age network software) doesn't permit me to snip and edit Michael Perelman's response, but I'll try to take each of his questions one by one. Michael asks "do demographics figure into the changes?" Yes, they do. Among other things, average and median household sizes in the urban areas have been declining over the last several decennial censuses. The more households you have, the more housing you need. The source of these changes in household sizes are complex, but include factors like: the divorce rate, overall population boom (and boomlet/echoes of boomers' kids having kids). It's generally too, at least from my review of California demographic data that rural counties have large households on the whole than the urban counties. The increasing conversion of apartments into condos I'm not so familiar with. I do think that, as in my earlier post, there is a demand among lower-income people and small households for home ownership - again, to control some part of this earth, to call their own - that developers are starting to recognize. So, for example, right now there is a live/work development in West Berkeley that just recently converted to condominium ownership structure. Three units in this development were designated "inclusionary," and one is up for a lottery this Friday to determine who gets to buy a unit priced at $96,200. This unit was advertised in the Sunday SF Examiner Real Estate section and the marketing agent and I have been besieged with interested applicants. If you can provide ownership opportunities at such a low price, people will jump at the chance. At bottom, though I've not studied it systematically, my experience as a housing planner indicates that many people at all income levels would much prefer, given the opportunity, to pay into their own equity, not someone else's, as well as for the opportunity to control their home environment. Insofar as data are collected on homeownership, I believe the 1990 census might be the first census to include data on condo ownership as distinct from single-family or duplex ownership. My colleague Jeff Levin of the City of Oakland may be out there, having posted to this list recently. He may have some comments as well.