[PEN-L:5029] Re: Timetable?

Gar Lipow lipowg at sprintmail.com
Fri Apr 9 08:29:09 PDT 1999


I really think these messages would be a mistake. Both seem to be defending Yugoslavian atrocities, when I think the key point is to oppose U.S. atrocities.

I think the critical points to make over and over again are that A) The U.S., in attacking Yugoslavia is committing atrocities of it's own. B) It is creating situations where worse atrocities are happening since the war than before the war started. C) It has not prevented a single atrocity to date, is unlikely to prevent any atrocities in the future, and is likely to continue to cause atrocities in the future.

Other points -- U.S. hypocrisy in selecting targets, the U.S.'s own record, U.S. violation of international law are important, but are secondary points.

Maybe I'm all wet on this; if so tell me why. I'm going to be writing up a short pamphlet based on what I've seen on this list, lbo-talk, and the huge collection of Kosovo material at znet (http://www.zmag.org/). They are going to be short pamphlets, leaving out a lot, so what to emphasize and what to leave out is important. Some people are getting impatient with the debate, wanting to move on to the next step. Well, the question of what is important to emphasize in trying to change public opinion is something these lists can deal with.

Tom Lehman wrote:
>
> Two good messages you could send.
>
> 1. The Yugo/Serbs were our allies in WWI, WWII and the COLD WAR.
>
> 2. Clinton, Gore and company came down hard on armed separatist groups like
> the Waco Branch Dividians, The Montana Freeman, the incident at Ruby Ridge
> etc. etc.How many were killed, wounded or are now in prison for these small
> scale separatist outbreaks? What would Clinton-Gore and Co. do if one of
> these militia groups went ballastic?
>
> Your email pal,
>
> Tom L.
>
> Lisa & Ian Murray wrote:
>
> > How much more shaping up of our facts and conjectures before we go on the
> > "offensive"?
> >
> > http://www.fair.org/media-contact-list.html
> >
> > Ian Murray
> > Seattle, WA

-- Gar W. Lipow 815 Dundee RD NW Olympia, WA 98502



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