>hang on a second Kelley. what I said what that the movie was disgusting. I
>did not say that Jennifer's comments were racist or classist, I was
>disagreeing with her conclusions. she had clearly noted that the film
>disturbed her, and where I would differ is that for me the film was
>disturbing but not in the way she suggested.
another one of those tons o mail days ange AND the peculiarity of two lists talking about same movie as with the zizek thing a while ago. i must figure out these filters so i can sep by list.
my read of Jennifer's post suggested to me that she seemed to psychologize the behavior. certainly not classist in an outrageous way, but a bit classist i'd say. to use a different example, had someone griped about a film that portrayed latina women as welfare queens and then said, "i know people like this sad but true," that person probably would have been called on the carpet for saying that in such an unreflective way. but perhaps jennifer might want to explain what she meant by that one a bit more than she did. i realize you specifically knew ppl who harmed animals, but did you mean that you knew people in general who are 'white trash'. and i'm not clear why you made the migrating from kentucky comment without explaining what you meant or at least how you judged what you said.
jennifer, you might be interested in _White Trash_ ( Annalee Newitz & Matt Wray)
the intro discusses the geneticization and, indeed, racialization of poor whites in the US in the first part of this century.
>I don't know if you've seen the film. it's one of those films that, in
>posing as doco-realist anthropology, is clearly capable of seducing an
>audience into thinking they're watching the exposure of the secret life of
>the underclass.
eeeeuuuu people have been flipping out over the use of this term underclass. have been flipping out over it for years, but a recent spate of wars has errupted.
any thoughts any one? and shoot this'll be a thread i'll want to read and i have to unsub soon. or else come back to twenty bizillion mails.
apologies doug for being an asshole it just still pisses me off that i got to endure several much shittier posts over the course of months and now folks get unsubbed for the slightest bit of crap. that's what i meant by caving in at the slightest bit of pressure. yes, yes, i know doug: i'm a bitch, a crank, and so on and so forth. and i took out my very bad day yesterday on you.
anyway, jennifer seems to have been perfectly capable of handling herself.
you tell 'em sistah.
kelley
“touch yourself and you will know that i exist.” ~luce irigaray