Labour Party and the Unions

Jim heartfield jim at
Tue Aug 3 05:21:57 PDT 1999

In message <001601bedd1f$94fd8580$5ef246d1 at>, Max Sawicky <sawicky at> writes
>More socialismus interruptus from JH . . .
>And? And?
>What is societal self-determination?

Forgive me if I decline an invitation to write recipes for the socialist kitchens of the future. This much is merely a mundane restatement of Marxism, which I'm surprised is contentious. The assessment is that human society has alienated its own powers in the market and the state, and that, therefore, it needs to re-appropriate control of its own self- organisation. Clearly, I would be substituting myself for society as a whole, if I were to put forward a proposal for the allocation of social labour in a socialist future.

To take the discussion out of the Sunday School, the point is what question is posed by the present, or what form does alienation take. That is principally what LM is about - the problems of the present, the degradation of subjectivity, the culture of low expectations, and the hostility to social progress in the here and now. Now all of those analyses imply an attitude to the future, but they are not situated in an idealised future, which is of only speculative interest.

If Max doesn't like the answer, it's because he is asking the wrong question. I never claimed powers of clairvoyance, only a passing understanding of the problems of the present. -- Jim heartfield

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