Cybersweatshops and Unions

Stephen E Philion philion at hawaii.edu
Sun Aug 8 18:54:52 PDT 1999


Heck, the airlines industry can do it...one of the most important vehicles for developing consensus prior to the successful American Airlines Flight Attendants' Strike back in 1993 was videoconferencing, including substantial #'s of the rank and file...a group of workers who were not only not spatially confined, but way more mobile than most computer programmers...

Steve

On Mon, 26 Jul 1999, carvin rothman wrote:


> I work in a cybershop where I make $10/hr for 40 hrs per week and I
> have no health benefits although I am a permanent employee. My
> employers showed me their balance sheets and noted that they themselves
> are deferring their salaries during the company's post-startup phase,
> and that the company has negative cash-flow.
>
> This $10/hr, although sub-market for my skills, is more than I have
> ever made before. Also, there is a very informal work atmosphere - no
> punching clocks, etc.
>
> If this company were to provide market-level or decent pay and
> benefits, it could not afford to exist, some would suggest.
>
> In addition, the Ny Times article touches on the subject, but not very
> explicity: how does a union form that is not based confinement of
> space.
>
>
>
> --- Lisa & Ian Murray <seamus at accessone.com> wrote:
> > Self exploitation of Gen-X continues. The situation
> > is nowhere near as rosy
> > as Greenhouse portrays it.
> >
> > $50,000 a year at 70 hour weeks come to a little
> > over $14 an hour....
> >
> >
> http://www.nytimes.com/library/tech/99/07/biztech/articles/26labo.html
> >
> >
> > July 26, 1999
> >
> >
> > High-Technology Sector Unmoved by Labor's Song
> > By STEVEN GREENHOUSE
> >
> > SEATTLE -- As the labor movement sets its sights on
> > the booming
> > high-technology world, employees like Matt Shea, a
> > 24-year-old software
> > developer, seem ripe for the picking. He often
> > clocks 70-hour weeks, his
> > managers sometimes push him to work past midnight,
> > and he never receives
> > overtime pay.
> >
> > But ask Shea whether he wants a union at his
> > workplace, a thriving Internet
> > start-up called Go2Net, and his response is a
> > puzzled expression that says
> > "Does Not Compute."
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Dan Lamont for The New York Times
> > Matthew Shea, a software designer for Go2Net in
> > Seattle, says he likes his
> > job, is well compensated and sees no need for a
> > union.
> >
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > ----
> >
> >
> > "As far as me personally, and for everyone else
> > here, unions have never come
> > up," said Shea, who said he loved his job,
> > notwithstanding the sweatshop
> > hours. "Everything I want is offered to me here."
> >
> > The American labor movement has belatedly recognized
> > that if it is to
> > reverse the decades-long slide in the percentage of
> > workers belonging to
> > unions, it must make some headway in high
> > technology, the economy's
> > fastest-growing sector. To increase their numbers
> > and their influence in
> > politics and at the bargaining table, unions cannot
> > afford to be shut out of
> > the glamorous, powerful high-tech industry, which
> > accounts for an
> > ever-larger share of the work force.
> >
> > Persuading technology workers to join unions will
> > not be easy, though,
> > because of all that is lavished upon people like
> > Shea. His job gives him
> > valuable stock options, flexible hours, an excellent
> > medical plan, a sense
> > of family and, perhaps most important, the thrill of
> > building something.
> >
> > Labor leaders acknowledge that they face an uphill
> > battle -- only a small
> > fraction of the nation's 2 million computer and
> > software developers,
> > programmers and engineers belongs to labor unions.
> > But organizers are far
> > from packing their bags in Seattle or Silicon
> > Valley. In fact, they are
> > convinced that many high-technology employees will
> > ultimately warm to
> > labor's message that workers need a collective voice
> > to stand up to
> > management.
> >
> > In a public relations coup this spring, union
> > organizers trumpeted one of
> > their first successes in high technology when 16
> > temporary workers at
> > Microsoft became the first group of software workers
> > in a single workplace
> > to call for union representation. Their action
> > reflects a little-understood
> > aspect of high-tech America: While most
> > high-technology workers are
> > contented haves, there are also many discontented
> > have-nots.
> >
> > Most have-nots come from the sea of long-term temps
> > who work at Microsoft
> > and other high-tech companies, and they often
> > complain of being second-class
> > citizens who receive bare-bones benefits and have no
> > job security or stock
> > options. Microsoft employs 20,500 regular workers
> > domestically and 6,000
> > temps, who often call themselves permatemps because
> > they work anywhere from
> > six months to three years at the company, testing
> > software, writing manuals,
> > designing Web pages and developing CD-ROMs.
> >
> > Industry experts estimate that at many companies --
> > including Compaq
> > Computer, Hewlett-Packard and Intel -- more than 10
> > percent of the workers
> > are temps.
> >
> > "The conditions are not the same as where unions
> > have had a lot of success,"
> > said Jonathan Rosenblum, organizing director for the
> > King County Labor
> > Council in Seattle, "but that doesn't mean there
> > aren't a lot of substantive
> > issues that concern high-tech workers and make them
> > feel they want to have a
> > voice in their job."
> >
> > Just as high technology has had vast ripple effects
> > on the way Americans
> > live, it is forcing changes in the American labor
> > movement. Labor's
> > traditional focus has been getting a majority of
> > employees at a work site --
> > usually full-time workers tied for years to a single
> > employer -- to vote for
> > a union then negotiating a contract for them.
> >
> > But unions are finding that this model may be as
> > obsolete in high-tech
> > America as a 286 Intel chip, because workers jump
> > among companies like
> > honeybees from flower to flower.
> >
> > Some labor organizers acknowledge that they may
> > never get a majority of
> > workers at start-ups or at giants like Intel to vote
> > in a union. So they are
> > trying to devise new ways to represent
> > high-technology workers.
> >
> > An innovative example came in February when, seeking
> > to improve benefits for
> > high-tech temps, the AFL-CIO office in Silicon
> > Valley set up an employment
> > agency offering far better benefits than other
> > agencies.
> >
> > "The way we go to work has changed," said Amy Dean,
> > director of the
> > AFL-CIO's Silicon Valley office. "So we, the labor
> > movement, have to create
> > a response that recognizes that the world has
> > changed, while still embracing
> > the values, like equity and giving workers a voice,
> > that labor has always
> > stood for."
> >
> >
> > The Haves: Big Salaries and Benefits
> >
> > or Shea, the 24-year-old software engineer, unions
> > are not so much
> > undesirable as irrelevant.
> >
> > At Go2Net, he has no out-of-pocket costs for his
> > health or dental plan. He
> > is happy with his flexible hours and two weeks of
> > vacation a year. And he
> > loves working at a start-up where he has a strong
> > sense of making a
> > contribution.
> >
> > "My goal has always been to develop software that
> > lots of people use," he
> > said. "Here you can see 10,000 people using your
> > software every day."
> >
> > Nor do his 70-hour weeks make him resent management.
> >
> > "As far as what gets me up in the morning or what
> > makes me stay up so late,
> > that's a pride issue," said Shea, who received a
> > bachelor's degree in
> > computer science from the University of California
> > at San Diego. "Last
> > night, I was up till 4 a.m. testing a new home
> > page."
> >
> >
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