planning (and the side issue of nazism) - was lots of other silly headers

Yoshie Furuhashi furuhashi.1 at osu.edu
Thu Aug 26 12:53:26 PDT 1999


Angela:
>never said nazism was characterised by an over-ambitious statism;
>rather, i pointed to the historic connection between biology and
>economics in the nazi state. if you raise the notion of socialist
>planning as the planning for the satisfaction of biological givens, as
>yoshie did, then to me, you'd have to address precisely this history of
>that synthesis and how that is to be distingushed from the notion of
>socialist planning in the aforementioned terms.

Socialist planning must satisfy needs arising from biological givens, among other needs and desires (otherwise it will be a disappointment, nay, even a tragedy -- e.g. socialism with inadequate food), but that doesn't make socialist planning the same as fascist planning. In fact, I have argued against population control discourse in many a post on abortion and reproductive rights here and elsewhere. Goods and services ought to be abundant & socially provided for, but many (most?) of them had better be made use of individually.

Further, I agree with liberal feminists like Katha (and including anticommunist Slavenka Drakulic) that socialism without tampons (a need arising from a biological given and subsequently developed historically) pointed to inadequate regard for women's needs and desires and lack of democratic participation of women in socialism beyond tokenism.

Yoshie



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