GDP is unscientific and unfair for poor people.

Charles Brown CharlesB at CNCL.ci.detroit.mi.us
Tue Aug 31 13:31:07 PDT 1999



>>> Stephen E Philion <philion at hawaii.edu> 08/31/99 02:11PM >>>
Yes, who should be making these changes Charles? Chang's comments come out of left field. Is he saying that left economists should do this more? Bourgeois economists?

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Charles: Left field is a good place to be on a left list, don' t you think.

Sure left economists on this list and pen-l etc. should do it more. Who else has the stature and authority that they might be believed that in fact GDP as an exclusive and main measure of social economic health is misleading ? He didn't say bourgeois economists. Was Marx a "bourgeois" economist " Wouldn't Marx, the left economist be debunking the bougeois concept of GDP and its propaganda uses today ?

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If so, why *should* bourgeois economists (now the mainstream in the US as well as China) change their methodology ? They wouldn't be bourgeois if they did, which he doesn't seem to get.

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Charles: Is this a bourgeois economist list or a left economist list Ju-Chang is writing to ? Maybe I am on the wrong list.

I think he is saying the economists on this list should critique the concept of GDP.

If Ju-Chang is out of the mainstream in China, which mainstream you seem to criticize, why are you criticizing Ju-Chang ?

Charles Brown

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Reminds me of the constant complaint in China that if only the US played fair, China could develop in the market place...the problem isn't capitlalists or capitalism or global expansion of capitalist markets for that matter...just 'unfairness'....

Steve

On Tue, 31 Aug 1999, Charles Brown wrote:


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> >>> Wojtek Sokolowski <sokol at jhu.edu> 08/31/99 12:57PM >>
> I think this is indicative of a certain confusion on the left - which was
> excellently summarised by jim heartfield some time ago: the main thrust of
> marxist critique of capitalism is not the level of production but the
> distribution of surplus.
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> Charles: This is the main thrust of Ju-Chang He's critcism too. Ju-Chang is saying stop paying attention to the level of production only (GDProduct(ion)) and start paying attention to distribution of the surplus (poor people) too in evaluating your economic performance.
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