Oh yeah, don't tell us about the Makhnovshchina either. He was a bloody murderer on a big scale. Barkley Rosser -----Original Message----- From: Chuck0 <chuck at tao.ca> To: lbo-talk at lists.panix.com <lbo-talk at lists.panix.com> Date: Friday, December 17, 1999 11:09 AM Subject: Re: "Experiment" (was Re: Great Cockburn/St. Clair piece on Seattle)
>Yoshie Furuhashi wrote:
>
>> The USSR indeed failed, but it wasn't an "experiment" in the sense of
>> putting ideas into practice under laboratory conditions. Perhaps those
who
>> are hostile to historical materialism can't accept the idea that the
>> revolution isn't an "experiment," so they can't understand failure
either.
>
>I was using the word "experiment" in the sense that the Soviet Union has
>been called a "socialist experiment." I guess this is in keeping with
>the silly notion that socialism is "scientific."
>
>> Left up to anarchists, the Russian revolution would not have happened,
and
>> the USSR wouldn't have come into existence. Perhaps anarchists think
that
>> it would have been better had the USSR never existed.
>
>I think it would have been better if the USSR had never existed. I think
>the millions who were killed by Stalin and other Soviet leaders would
>agree with me. It's a damn shame that the Russian revolution was taken
>over by assholes like Lenin and his cronies. But anarchists aren't
>surprised by this. This is why we don't work with authoritarian
>communists who would shoot us in the back as soon as they take over.
>
>--
>Chuck0
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