Migration, Etc. (was Re: Wen Ho Lee Support)

Tom Lehman TLehman at lor.net
Mon Dec 20 15:29:11 PST 1999


Yoshie, be a little careful on this one. One thing that I'm reading about and hearing about is the use of these H-1B visa's to break union organizing campaigns in the so-called high tech computer industries. A scab's a scab no matter how you cut it.

Our own Senator Mike Dewine and Senator John "Conflicted" McCain, two of my favorite Republicans have been pushing to get more of this type of visa issued! The H-1B besides being used to bust union organizing drives and is also a racket for high tech coyotes.

Tom

Yoshie Furuhashi wrote:


> Angela:
> >substantiation of the claim that controls on migration strengthen the
> >bargaining power of workers viz capital would be nice as well.
>
> Immigration control _doesn't and won't_ help American workers. As long as
> push & pull factors exist, workers will come and get exploited. The only
> question is _on what terms_ they will get exploited -- as isolated illegal
> aliens with few rights, government-sanctioned "guest workers," or workers
> plain and simple on equal terms with "citizen workers."
>
> That said, capitalism does pit workers against workers, and things look
> like a zero-sum game for job competition from the point of view of workers
> who see no alternative to capitalism (whether you are talking about import
> or immigration). The day American workers fully accept illegal aliens as
> brothers and sisters in solidarity is most likely the day when they become
> communist, and we are obviously not there yet. So how do we go from here
> to there? We can and should argue & struggle against xenophobia, but that
> doesn't solve the problem, does it? For xenophobia is mainly a symptom,
> not the cause.
>
> Chuck0's idea (and the Seattle practice) of network is just fine if the
> only purpose of the protest is to say a symbolic No to the WTO. But in the
> absence of solid organization of those who think like you and I, it is no
> wonder that we (fragmented & disorganized, only loosely cyber-networked)
> become merely foot soldiers for loyal oppositions like Max and Hoffa,
> despite our intentions, no? (Max here is gracious enough to thank the
> Eugene anarchists for "just the right amount of windows broken" to make the
> point -- his point. Does this not make you think?) So, what is to be done?
>
> Also, do you think that open borders arguments should be applied in all
> instances? Most migration in the world occurs not from poor nations to the
> rich core but among poor nations, I believe. Circumstances there are much
> more complicated than fighting xenophobia in America, Japan, or Australia
> (the latter is no-brainer for those who think like you and I). What do you
> think?
>
> Yoshie



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