I'm sorry if I wasn't clear, but my point was that the sixties generation in the white house was just as capitalistic as the world war generation. The both seem inordinately lazy to me, dedicating vast amounts of their time to philanthropy and philandering -a sure sign of time on your hands (a bit like e-mail). Ludic is a self-description touted by the 'information society', it is fetishistic, but it also describes the monopoly of time they enjoy (but I think you know this argument). -- Jim heartfield