The report I got from the Associated Press says that the Hughes Aircraft pension plan was a contributory plan.
Justice Clarence Thomas writing for the court said the retirees' claims "proceed on the erroneous assumption that they had an interest in the plan's surplus."
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Tom L.
Yale wrote:
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom Lehman <uswa12 at lorainccc.edu>
> To: lbo-talk at lists.panix.com <lbo-talk at lists.panix.com>
> >Nathan, the Supreme Court made a ruling Monday in the case of Hughes
> Aircraft
> >Co. vs. Jacobson, 97-1287. Have you heard any discussion of this lawsuit
> or
> >court ruling.
>
> Well, this follows my comments to Carl. Hughes argued that it was
> fulfilling its commitments to deliver defined benefits to pensioners
> (because of the gains of the stock market) so it was free to use the surplus
> capital for its own purposes in other benefit programs.
>
> The appeal of any kind of private savings account is that people feel they
> keep the proceeds of any speculative surplus. That is how they are sold and
> why they have some justifiable popularity. Because Social Security has been
> being used to cover other spending deficits (Defense to the angers of
> liberals, Medicaid if you are conservative), people have the sense that they
> at best will get the defined benefits promised without any speculative gains
> which were instead used for other purposes.
>
> This is not too far off the anger of the Hughes workers who sued because
> they felt their pension plan was being ripped off.
>
> Now, a better result that private savings plans is to restore trust to
> people that they will get more out of the pension system than they put in.
> Even if Social Security is preserved in its present form unmodified - the
> default position of liberals - that assurance really is not there. Given
> demographic changes, the only way to restore the gains enjoyed by past
> retirees (who did get back more than they put into the system, even
> adjusting for comparable stock gains) would be to increase the progressivity
> of the payroll tax system. With more income from the wealthy paying into
> the system, tax rates on working class folks could be cut. That would
> increase the attractiveness of Social Security versus private savings
> dramatically.
>
> --Nathan