BRC messages -- a technical question

R. Magellan magellan at netrio.com.br
Wed Jan 27 15:03:18 PST 1999


Dear listers, and specially Carrol Cox and Charles Brown:

Has anyone a suggestion about this technical question?

The two messages coming from the marxism-thaxis list and forwarded by you from the BRC list (see below) repeatedly blocked the incoming messages in my e-mail from Saturday afternoon to early Tuesday, totalling an increasing and unmanageable flood of more than 800 messages waiting to enter, including several repetitions of the same BRC messages.

I was at the edge of deleting all the waiting messages at once in order to regain control over my incoming e-mail but my provider could eventually delete just the two blocking BRC messages, what required the breaching of my password secrecy.

It is the second time since October that something coming from the marxism-thaxis list causes this problem and now, in both occasions, it was related to the BRC messages. To be related to BRC was just a coincidence or would it imply a technical failure originating therefrom?

I don't want to unsub the m-thaxis list in order to avoid this mess again. Instead of directly forwarding messages I suggest you to copy and paste them, a procedure that doesn't take time.

I beg for the patience of those who wrote to me for delaying answers, as well as I recognize that I'm in debt to the lists about some issues on the present crisis (the crisis within the permanent crisis, better saying).

Best wishes, R. Magellan

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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 17:54:47 -0500 From: "Charles Brown" <CharlesB at CNCL.ci.detroit.mi.us> To: <marxism-thaxis at buo319b.econ.utah.edu> Subject: Re: M-TH: CHARLES BROWN, STOP!

Sorry, but are you sure it is something in the message ?

Surely you don't think I did it on purpose.

Maybe it broke down and that just happened to be the last message.

Charles


>>> R. Magellan <magellan at netrio.com.br> 01/24 5:45 PM >>>

By now 349 messages are being blocked in my e-mail because this message below can't enter into. I can't pick them either through Eudora or Netscape.

I can only send messages out. What happened?

(.....)

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Return-Path: owner-lbo-talk at dont.panix.com Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 18:02:03 -0600 From: Carrol Cox <cbcox at mail.ilstu.edu> To: "lbo-talk at lists.panix.com" <lbo-talk at lists.panix.com> CC: "marxism at lists.panix.com" <marxism at lists.panix.com>,

Leninist International <leninist-international at buo319b.econ.utah.edu> Subject: [Fwd: [BRC-ALL] Mumia]

THE TEXT OF THIS MESSAGE WAS BLANK.

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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 09:07:42 -0500 From: "Charles Brown" <CharlesB at CNCL.ci.detroit.mi.us> To: <Leninist-international at buo319b.econ.utah.edu>,

<Marxism-thaxis at buo319b.econ.utah.edu>, <Lbo-talk at lists.panix.com>,

<Labor-l at yorku.ca> Subject: M-TH: Fwd: [BRC-ALL] BRC-ALL BLACK RADICAL CONGRESS ENDORSES

MILLIONS FOR MUMIA Reply-To: marxism-thaxis at buo319b.econ.utah.edu

RICK wrote:
>
> The Black Radical Congress endorses the Millions for Mumia mobilization.
> The BRC recognizes that the gross injustices that Mumia Abu Jamal and
> other political prisoners are suffering, are deep-rooted, long standing,
> and fundamental to capitalist/white supremacist hegemony. The
> circumstances surrounding the attempted execution style murder of Mumia,
> demands from those who call themselves radical to begin to build mass
> opposition against the killing of Mumia and the castration of
> radicalism. Mumia's ordeal has come to symbolize a struggle for justice
> and human dignity, as he draws attention along race and class lines to
> issues such as: the inhumanity of the death penalty, judicial lynching,
> police terror, criminalization of our youth, the acceleration of
> imprisonment of people of color--especially women of color, and the
> state sanctioned abuse of prisoners implemented by racist legislation.
>
> Mumia's case clearly illustrates how the marginalized have been
> sentenced to capital punishment. In other words, those without capital
> are punished--while the rich get richer and the poor go to jail! This
> state-sanctioned lynching isn't just about Mumia. It carries with a
> warning to all those who dare challenge the hypocrisies evident in a
> capitalist democracy. Mumia's ordeal serves as a caveat, that there is
> a price to be paid if we resist bourgeois authority, refuse to conform,
> and if we stand up for those who aren't able to stand for themselves.
> Yet, Mumia Abu Jamal continues to inspire white rock bands to chant his
> name on national television, he inspires Black urban griots to
> articulate the frustrations of neglected inner-city youth, he inspires
> members of foreign parliaments to call for a new and impartial trial,
> and he inspires thousands of us to struggle here in Amerikkka. His
> uncompromising stance in the face of impending death and continued
> exposes of the racist exploitative nature of capitalism, clarifies our
> struggle against this insane order known as Amerikkkan democracy.
>
> As local, national, and international efforts to draw attention to
> Mumia, continue to grow, we want to put equal emphasis on building an on
> going united front or coalition on a local level. Many people don't
> know about Mumia, or his plight which points to the need for local
> organizing, teach-ins, demostrations, and other effective measures.
> There is also a critical need to link the Millions for Mumia
> mobilization with the political prisoner movement and the prison
> industrial complex. By combining these areas of work we can all build a
> genuine united front against repressive legislation and attacks on our
> human rights.
>
> The Black Radical Congress also recognizes that the various activites to
> save Mumia Abu Jamal's life, through critical resistance have within
> them the potential to galvanize our fragmented radical forces. This
> will enable us to organize our communities toward radical solutions to
> our problems. The call for Millions for Mumia to mobilize, draws upon a
> rich heritage of struggle, by putting faith in the power of the people.
> Examples of such people power have resulted in the freedom of Angela Y.
> Davis; Geronimo Ji Jaga; Dhoruba bin Wahad; Assata Shakur; Nelson
> Mandela and others. The persecution of Mumia Abu Jamal, demands that we
> come together, and actively call public attention to the state execution
> style attempted murder of Mumia, and bring pressure to bear in obtaining
> justice for Mumia and all political prisoners. The potential to free
> Mumia, lies in the people, not elected leaders (Cheer-Leaders for Bill
> Clinton), not so-called objective journalism (manufactured consensus.)
> The ANSWER lies in PEOPLE POWER! Power generated by well-informed and
> organized communities, that are able to respond effectively to direct
> action. Through strength and unity, we can bring about freedom for
> Mumia, and the abolishment of this present unjust system.
>
> STOP THE EXECUTION OF MUMIA ABU JAMAL - HANDS OFF ASSATA
>
> THE BLACK RADICAL CONGRESS "TOWARD THE STRUGGLE TO FORGE NEW BLACK
> LEADERSHIP FOR THE COMING MILLENNIUM"

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