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James L Westrich II westrich at miser.umass.edu
Wed Jun 2 05:45:23 PDT 1999



>>. . . Louis is too ornery and Doug is too principled. And those
>>are
>>good things. >


>>> CB: These are false innuendos about the relationship between
>>facts and revolution. Reality and the facts are radical. The
>>status quo is preserved by falsehoods, non-facts. >


>>My statement went to the relationship between revolutionaries and
>>facts, not to revolution per se. And then only to certain
>>revolutionaries. My evidence is LP (and others) continuous
>>harvesting of one-sided, highly impeachable information re: the
>>Balkans. No objective-minded person can fail to see this,
>>whatever their stance on the bombing.


>>> Nor do individual thinkers have some general advantage over
>>collectives, such as hard-line communist cadre , in stubborness,
>>principledness or stubborn adherence to principle. Max offers no
>>facts to support his
>>assertion of a self-congratulatory , academic stereotype. >


>>Collectives is a little vague; we've got some coop natural foods
>>stores down here. They could be construed as collectives but
>>would not fall under the scope of my statement. Real Communist
>>cadre groups are a whole different matter. The plain fact is
>>that if you are in such a group, bullshit is one of the daily
>>dietary requirements, and adherence to principle is carefully
>>rationed. This has nothing to do with academics or
>>non-academics, nor with any claim to principle by myself.


>>You can't prove something like this. You can either live it or
>>read about it. Reading is a lot easier. I recommend "Invisible
>>Man" by Ralph Ellison. Or Hemingway on the Spanish civil war.
>>And if you haven't lived it and don't believe what you read, you
>>wouldn't know.


>>mbs



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