katie roiphe

kelley d-m-c at worldnet.att.net
Fri Jun 11 09:36:46 PDT 1999


liza writes:


>just as well, since it was actually just as stupidly argued as her first
>book -- she confusedly attacked sex ed in public schools and
>government-funded public health campaigns for fomenting AIDS hysteria --
>when obviously that's the last thing they do, since such programs barely
>exist.

uuuh well i'm living is bassackwards florida and we have sex ed in the public schools and my son sure thinks that sex=death. it all started last year when our daily afternoon 'how was school convos' revealed a number of things

1. in response to my question about when he thought he might have sex, he replied "after i'm married" 2. when i pointed out that, at the time, i was living with someone and having sex without being married and so was his father, he replied that he'd wait at least 6 YEARS! [oh i wish i'd had a tape recorder so i could play it back when he inevitably fails to achieve that standard.] 3. i was treated to a *very* interesting discussion of respect. boys should always treat girls with respect which means that they must do whatever they say. if they expect you to call, then you do. you don't pick stupid fights. etc. PROGRESS??? i think he learned this from his friends more than from health ed class. 4. the most recent round of sex ed class was introduced first by those marvelous photos of people with advanced cases of VD. remember those? i don't remember seeing those til highschool. danny is 11, in the sixth grade. he couldn't figure out how people had it on their mouths. interesting convo that one. the look of disgust on his face, oh my. 5. he could detail for me all the negative effects of sex: death, disease, poverty, ruining one's life, not being able to go to college [they apparently pound that one even into boys' brains.]

i quickly moved to discuss other thing that i imagined that he wasn't getting from the clinical discussions in school or the tee hee discussions from friends.

oh well, he thinks jerking off means having sex with a girl. so whatever.

i got that answer both from overhearing a convo and from asking directly


>Perhaps some of the boys on the list can speak to her allure; it's always
>eluded me and I don't think I need to get catty.

i've never read an ounce of the tripe, though someone gave me _the morning after_ personally i wouldn't mind finding out what those lips are like. but hey, the first time i ever subbed to a marxist list, i was treated to lou proyect waxing libidinally about some democratic socialist babe's legs which he figured were a legit reason to overlook her obvious lack in political sensibilities. obviously the attraction has very little to do with what she says. i mean, liza, come on...do you honestly think we've made any advances here?

nice to see ya back though

kelley



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