Speaking of Schumpeter...

Henry C.K. Liu hliu at mindspring.com
Mon Mar 1 12:04:11 PST 1999


Remarks by Chairman Alan Greenspan

At the Haas Annual Business Faculty Research Dialogue,

University of California, Berkeley, California

September 4, 1998

Question: Is There a New Economy?

The American economy, like all advanced capitalist economies, is

continually in the process of what Joseph Schumpeter, a number

of decades ago, called "creative destruction." Capital equipment,

production processes, financial and labor market infrastructure,

and the whole panoply of private institutions that make up a

market economy are always in a state of flux--in almost all cases

evolving into more efficient regimes.

The behavior of market economies across the globe in recent

years, especially in Asia and the United States, has underscored

how large a role expectations have come to play in real economic

development. Economists use the term "time preference" to

identify the broader tradeoff that individuals are willing to make,

even without concern for risk, between current consumption and

claims to future consumption. Measurable discount factors are

intended to capture in addition the various types of uncertainties

that inevitably cloud the future.

Dramatic changes in the latter underscore how human evaluation,

interacting with the more palpable changes in real output, can

have profound effects on an economy, as the experiences in Asia

have so amply demonstrated during the past year.

Vicious cycles have arisen across Southeast Asia with virtually no

notice. At one point, an economy would appear to be struggling,

but no more than had been the case many times in the past. The

next moment, market prices and the economy appeared in free

fall.

Our experiences with these vicious cycles in Asia emphasize the

key role in a market economy of a critical human attribute:

confidence or trust in the functioning of a market system.

Implicitly, we engage in a division of labor because we trust that

others will produce and be willing to trade the goods and services

we do not produce ourselves.

We take for granted that contracts will be fulfilled in the normal

course of business, relying on the rule of law, especially the law of

contracts. But if trust evaporated and every contract had to be

adjudicated, the division of labor would collapse. A key

characteristic, perhaps the fundamental cause of a vicious cycle,

is the loss of trust.

We did not foresee such a breakdown in Asia. I suspect that the

very nature of the process may make it virtually impossible to

anticipate. It is like water pressing against a dam. Everything

appears normal until a crack brings a deluge.

The immediate cause of the breakdown was an evident pulling

back from future commitments, arguably, the result of the

emergence among international lenders of widening doubt that

the dramatic growth evident among the Asian "tigers" could be

sustained. The emergence of excess worldwide capacity in

semiconductors, a valued export for the tigers, may have been

among the precipitating events. In any case, the initial rise in

market uncertainty led to a sharp rise in discounts on future

claims to income and, accordingly, falling prices of real estate and

equities. The process became self-feeding as disengagement from

future commitments led to still greater disruption and

uncertainty, rising risk premiums and discount factors, and a

sharp fall in production.

While the reverse phenomenon, a virtuous cycle, is not fully

symmetrical, some part is. Indeed, much of the current American

economic expansion is best understood in the context of favorable

expectations, interacting with production and finance to expand

rather than implode economic processes.

Full speech at: http://www.bog.frb.fed.us/boarddocs/speeches/1998/19980904.htm

While Greenspan did not actually say it, one can almost hear a global creative destruction being described. While Schumpeter was talking about US Steel as the creative destroyer in his days, Greenspan/Rubin is talking about US Steel being creatively destroyed by Japanese and Russian steel imports. They are also talking about Asian financial firms being creatively destroyed and taken over by American giants. The same is true in communication, IT, transportation, financial services. Schumpeter is Greenspan's idol, our modern creative destroyer.

Henry C.K. Liu

James Wilson wrote:


> Speaking of Schumpeter - happened to be browsing through some old
> Galbraith books at the library recently and found some interesting stuff
> about him and other high priests of the “Let them eat s__t” school of
> econonomics:
>
> When asked by President Herbert Hoover in 1932 for advice about the
> depression, leading economists Joseph Schumpeter of Harvard and Lionel
> Robbins of the London School of Economics answered that the government
> should do precisely nothing.
>
> Why?
>
> “Our analysis leads us to believe that recovery is sound only if it comes
> of itself.”
>
> In 1936, Schumpeter’s Harvard colleague Thomas Nixon Carver spoke publicly
> of the desirability of sterilizing all paupers in the U.S. so they could
> not breed and perpetuate their kind. He defined a pauper as anyone earning
> less than $1800 a year, a category that then embraced around half of all
> the families in the country.
>
> (See John Kenneth Galbraith’s “Economics in Perspective”, Houghton
> Mifflin, 1987 p. 196; the above passages are paraphrases and not exact
> quotes)
>
> James Wilson



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