profit rate falling!

rc-am rcollins at netlink.com.au
Tue Mar 16 22:06:45 PST 1999


chaz wrote:


>The overthrow of capitalism does not occur automatically. It is not
objective economic factors such as a low GDP that make the revolution. It is people, the working class. Capitalism has been overripe for overthrow for decades. The lacking factor is class and socialist consciousness in the working class tens of millions, the subjective factor. Objective factors such as unemployment, poverty, unhappiness push the people, but only people can actually make the rev.<

i agree with you that capitalism will not fall over because of objective factors. but then, i can't agree that these objective factors are actually objective: ie., aren't things like unemployment, poverty, boredom also - *at the same time* - subjective factors? doesn't the labour process shape the forms of working class subjectivity, which is in turn a result of responses to forms of working class subjectivity/struggle? i say 'in turn', but even then i'm not at all sure that there is a neat chronological sequence at play. and i say 'responses', but i am not at all sure *who* it is that responds.

where does subjectivity come from? from itself?

angela



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