>>> "rc-am" <rcollins at netlink.com.au> 03/18/99 09:36AM >>>
chaz wrote:
CB:>The objective factors are overripe.<
you've said this twice. what does it mean?
CB: Marx and all of them seem to formulate their theory that there must be a developed proletariat, wage-labor, capitalist relations of production, developed industrial, mass production and division of labor as an OBJECTIVE precondition for transition to socialism. These preconditions have been in existence and way beyond ready for many decades in many countries , including the U.S. and Austalia. Many capitalist ongoing and cyclical crises have occurred over the years based on the objective , law governed motion of the capitalist mode. The capitalists have shown that they will always take back when they get the chance, any and all reforms won by past struggles.
All of these are overripe , or have existed for a long time and are extremely aggravated, objective conditions for socialist rev. ((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((
>The working classes have been shaped by the labour process as much as
they are going to be as far as taking a horse to the water trough. <
re: the first bit of the sentence - so, does that mean that the working class, as it is now segmented and subjected to (and by) competition, speed-ups, just-in-time, one could note many other features, is the final face of the working class?
CB: The more the face changes, the more it stays the same, from now on, until it makes the real change. It's like McDonald's coming out with a new hamburger combination with a new name periodically. The only real change will be when the face of the working class takes on the determined smile of revolutionary overthrow.
CB