MASSACRE IN MEJA : murder by Serbs in Kosovo

Brad De Long delong at econ.Berkeley.EDU
Wed May 12 07:12:15 PDT 1999



>Brad De Long wrote:
>
>>Ah! Now I understand! Weapons should be used only in self-defense... unless
>>you think is right to use them to change people's minds...
>
>Brad, Germany was an expansionist imperial power that had invaded,
>occupied, and/or bombed many other European countries. And its ally, Japan,
>bombed the U.S. after having invaded several of its Asian neighbors. Both
>were major industrial powers too. I don't see any relevance of WW II
>parallels to the present situation, which even warriors acknowledge is
>illegal under present international law, and which involves an industrial
>midget that has been severely weakened by years of sanctions.
>
>Doug

You miss the point.

*Of course* Germany was an expansionist, imperial power. *Of course* it was a public service to the world to stop it.

My point was Brett Knowlton was wrong when he said that weapons are there to be used in self-defense: that there are times when it is appropriate--moral even--to use weapons not in self-defense, but to make one's adversary change one's mind.

And since his most recent posts acknowledge this, I am somewhat satisfied.

I am not completely satisfied because his claim that "...I support intervention in cases where genocide is taking place..." seems to me overbroad: such a doctrine would have committed the U.S. to intervene (i) in the Ukraine in the mid-1930s, (ii) in China in the late 1950s, (iii) to have assisted the Vietnamese in their intervention in Cambodia in the late 1970s, and to intervene now (iv) in North Korea. Of these, I think that only (iii) would have been worth doing: in spite of ongoing genocide, I think intervening in the other situations would have been likely to do more harm than good.

And in case you have forgotten, I am *opposed* to NATO's course of action in the Balkans today...

Brad DeLong



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