That's the figure. Sorry for upping it. The W. Post gave a city-by-city breakdown on that. Maybe it's not on the website.
The incredible number that I did not cite is the other the one they throw around, the alleged 100,000 "missing Albanian Kosovar males of military age." That I suspect is off by an order of magnitude. Plus, a bunch of the "actually exising missing" are in fact active UCK/KLA "in the hills." Some of those missing are probably dead, but they may be a chunk of the 4,600.
BTW, most of the 4,600 (the city-by-city count and the refugee sources make that number look harder than some, even if it is exaggerated by a thousand or two), are apparently "military age males." However, even if one wants to say that they are probably UCK/KLA and therefore "deserve to die," they were taken unarmed and shot, clearly a violation of the Geneva Convention.
Whatever the exact numbers, the rough orders of magnitude are clear: 200,000+ in the Croatia-Bosnia war, "several thousand" in Kosovo-Metohija, "several hundred" civilian dead in Yugoslavia from NATO bombs, and three Chinese in Belgrade from NATO bombs.
In any case, the bombing should stop. The hard fact that US/NATO must face is that they have lost and cannot win. All further effort simply adds to the suffering. Barkley Rosser -----Original Message----- From: Seth Ackerman <SAckerman at FAIR.org> To: 'lbo-talk at lists.panix.com' <lbo-talk at lists.panix.com> Date: Thursday, May 13, 1999 6:38 PM Subject: RE: body count
>Barkley,
>
>Where did you see the city-by-city breakdown?
>
>The official U.S. government number is around 4,600. This is on the
>State Dept.'s website and was given out by the Pentagon at a press
>briefing on the Chinese Embassy bombing, to remind reporters that the
>Serbs are nasty, too.
>
>If the administration is jacking the figure up to 10,000 for the Post,
>I'd be interested to know if this was on background or attributed. I
>doubt that there is some genuine higher number out there that the U.S.
>is hesitating to publicize.
>
>In the interest of not sounding like an apologist, let me say that I
>don't apologize for the Milosevic regime. However, my suspicion is that
>we will sooner or later find out that some of the wilder accounts of the
>scale of Serb atrocities in Kosovo have been exaggerated, just as the
>Germans' exploits in Belgium were exaggerated in WW1 for the same
>purposes. I also don't apologize for the Kaiser's regime.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Seth
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: J. Barkley Rosser, Jr. [SMTP:rosserjb at jmu.edu]
>> Sent: Thursday, May 13, 1999 6:12 PM
>> To: lbo-talk at lists.panix.com
>> Subject: Re: body count
>>
>> Doug,
>> Ah your message shows up! As I said in
>> response to Seth's misguided remarks,
>> this refers to the earlier wars. The 5,000-
>> 10,000 number is claimed by the US administration
>> as reported in the Washington Post. Actually a
>> fairly detailed city-by-city breakdown produced
>> a number just under 5,000 civilian dead in Kosmet.
>> Barkley Rosser
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com>
>> To: lbo-talk at lists.panix.com <lbo-talk at lists.panix.com>
>> Date: Thursday, May 13, 1999 3:13 PM
>> Subject: body count
>>
>>
>> >Barkley, I've seen you quote a figure of 200,000 killed by the
>> Serbians.
>> >What's the background on this number?
>> >
>> >Doug
>> >
>