[Fwd: Re: Guns etc]

Tom Lehman uswa12 at Lorainccc.edu
Thu Nov 18 15:17:20 PST 1999


To quote a famous NYC prohibition era federal agent, " I like guns, it's bullets I don't like."

Once again a little friendly remind to everyone, a little screw up with a gun gets you an automatic 5 years in prison in most of these United States.

Tom

Katha Pollitt wrote:


> Jeffrey St. Clair wrote:
> >
>
> > > So don't try to pretend you think guns are just good clean american
> > > manly fun and paint me as some kind of castrating killjoy ("cutting them
> > > off, so to speak" ha ha). We may disagree about guns in public -- but
> > > in your real life, your practical life as a human being and a father,
> > > you have the same fears and perspectives as I do.
> >
> > We differ on what we would DO about them. Frankly, my biggest fear is my
> > daughter's driving habits.
>
> Yes, as I said, in private,we both accept that guns are very dangerous
> (which Alex and Jordan do not); agree about what we would do personally
> (not have any or let our kids play with those who do); and differ on
> what the law should be -- although,interestingly, you haven't actually
> asked me what I think the law should be.
>
> My point, however, was this: In public you present yourself quite
> differently, as having no problem with guns, and you use dismissive
> language to describe my position: I am "obsessed" with guns (not alex,
> who has written probably a small volume's worth of pieces about how cool
> gunshows are and how stupid gun opponents are, whereas I haven't written
> even a paragraph about gun control, except on this list where we are
> just thinking out loud). I want to "make people feel guilty" about them.
> I want to take away people's gun fun (heavyhanded sexist castration
> allusion here--honestly, you should apologize for that).
>
> Your loaded-language way of discussing gun control seems to my ear to
> deny that guns pose dangers. Since, in fact, you DO think they pose
> dangers, why do you write as if those dangers were a joke and people who
> acknowledge them are wusses and/or ballbusters? Are you afraid someone
> will describe you as "puffing" and too scared to get out of the car?
>
> Katha



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