General status of gender relations vs. Quibbles

[Yoshie Furuhashi]

>From Seth to Doug:
>> This will no doubt exasperate the Judy-haters, following Butler's in
>> Bodies That Matter, it's interesting to watch how & when "biological"
>> arguments are invoked - as a last ditch effort to limit the
>> social/discursive analysis of social/discursive phenomena and ground
>> them instead in some unalterable Real. That's just what Rob is doing
>> here - resisting arguments based on gender (and class) relations and
>> shifting attention to the realm of the gene. Last time I looked,
>> genes couldn't talk, though lots of people profess to talk for them.
>>
>>
>	So, Doug. Are you saying gender phenomena are *always*
>social/discursive phenomena, and never grounded in some unalterable Real?

It is inaccurate to speak of "gender phenomena" as simply
"social/discursive phenomena."  Gender is an effect of oppression, just as
race is.  No oppression, no gender.  No oppression, no race.

Yoshie