ignore this, it's about women and sexism ...]]]

kelley oudies at flash.net
Tue Nov 30 09:34:03 PST 1999


And I think that Katha is correct in arguing
>that most of the arguments presented so far in defense of
>the thesis that sex is socially constructed only demonstrate
>that gender is.

it also demonstrates how gender is. how many people here believed that hormones *must* be a fundamentally decisive devision between the two morphs? and how many people here believed, prob still, that testosterone really is the reason why men are so aggressive? and how many people here might start to imagine that women have put that agression to different purposes and so are no less aggressive than men? how many here never heard of communal hunting, woman the hunter, woman the tool maker? etc and so on. these mistaken beliefs have real material serious consequences in my life and everyone's life. i'm the one who knows and has to think about that i'll be constructed as a bitch on a pms binge -- not any of the men on this list. do you know how often women on these lists have been told they need to get laid or take a midol or have a cup of tea. far too often. as for men, well their aggression will be seen as regretable but unavoidable whereas mine or yoshie's or other women's are somehow not the natural order of things.

those have real consequences from some screwed up ideologically warped science practices that ought to be pointed out and be pointed out repeatedly because it is simply unscientific to accept these claims without looking carefully at the research. and if you bother to look at the original stuff before it gets circulated there are almost always numerous cautions about causality and uncertainty that simply don't get translated into ordinary discourse. not enough for my tastes at any rate

asserting that we've all sounded like radical social constructionist is jim dandy. but maybe you ought to take "science" seriously and prove it.

kelley



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