FYI. I sent this at 3:00 pm today; now 3:40 and it hasn't come here. But I have gotten several other lbo posts since 3:00.
CB
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>>> "THE WORLD SOCIALIST MOVEMENT(via THE SOCIALIST PARTY
Simon says:
The argument above is really a backhanded "the workers will never achieve greater than trade union consciousness" one, of Leninism and Fabianism. I am not some super vanguard, and I can see capitalism as a whole system shoved in my face. Why should I hypothesise that fellow members of the working class are incapable of the same?
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Also, I can quite heartily assure you this is not the case. The WSM's position is that capitalism is a system with endless permutations but certain defining characteristics, and there may yet be different forms of capitalism. (That's the political free market, don't you know). We say that socialism has never been established anywhere in the world, never mind outside the US.
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Charles: If the working class can achieve socialist consciousness without the intevention of a party, what is the role of The World Socialist Movement ?
How's it The World Socialist Movement thinks socialism has never been established anywhere, when most workers think it has ? Do the workers need the intervention of The World Socialist Movement to let them know they are wrong ?
CB