Challenging US imperialism

Chris Burford cburford at gn.apc.org
Tue Sep 21 15:55:45 PDT 1999


At 12:02 21/09/99 -0400, Doug wrote:
>Chris Burford wrote:
>
>>Indeed to stay in pure isolation on the sidelines is one of the best ways
>>to leave imperialism to have a free run. It is much better to challenge it
>>as to whether it means its fine words. That in practical terms is much more
>>effective anti-imperialism.
>
>Chris, your idea of challenging imperialism is to engage with those
>prime agents of imperialism, NATO and the IMF. That's a very weird
>sort of anti-imperialism in my book.

What good can forming a society of pure left wingers do?

A marxist analysis does not assume that phenomena like NATO and the IMF have been conjured up for the purposes of evil. They are phenomena rooted in the present stage of the forces of production. They are both simultaneously organs of class rule and organs of organising society globally. Without the one aspect the other would be impossible.

That you cannot conceive of a global future except one dominated by US imperialism is a major constraint. It arises out of the US domination of the internet, in lists such as these - the discussion is polarised between those who take a right opportunist position conciliating with US imperialism, and those who take a left opportunist position of opposing everything that US imperialism does, even when it has to have some appeal to the interests of the majority of the people of the world.

I have more than once defended you, Doug, from charges that you have no theory. There is a lot of theory in 'Wall Street', but as a good promoter of an e-mail list you intuitively move the debate along and often shoot from the hip. The fact that you find the propositions I have put forward "weird" I of course find unconvincing. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

An ability to see that campaigning for gun control and the control of tobacco is also not your long suit. No one can be forced to think anything they do not want to on an e-mail list. I have to turn the question round: why the incomprehension?

Or put another question: how do you think US imperialism can be challenged, if as you have often said no revolution looks on the cards in the US? Answer: by campaigning for reforms, including in its conduct of foreign policy.

Chris Burford

London



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