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From: "Jennifer A Young" <CLEANBYRD@prodigy.net>
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Subject: Fw: Proletariat of the Next Century or Chasing Windmills?
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 21:49:22 -0500
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jennifer A Young <CLEANBYRD@prodigy.net>
To: Ibo-talk@lists.panix.com <Ibo-talk@lists.panix.com>
Date: Saturday, April 24, 1999 9:20 PM
Subject: Proletariat of the Next Century or Chasing Windmills?


>Dear Folks,
>
>     My name is Jennifer Young, alias-cleanbyrd.  Thank you everyone for
>your interest and comments.  I have had much frustration and confusion over
>the past 48 hours, because almost everything I have tried to post on
various
>environmental, socialist, and marxist lists has bounced.  I was getting
>PARANOID!!  That is why I tried to send my thoughts via an attachment Bob.
>I kept trying different strategies and still they bounced.  A couple lists
>threw me off for bounced messages (including MLL).  I don't know why or how
>this was happening, but the past few attempts at communicating have been
>sucessful and I am relieved.
>
>I am glad some of you had a chance to see my remarks.  I have a lot of
>emotion tied up in them.  I think emotional appeals are important to
balance
>out the heavy intellectual, logic based arguments.  After all, the ones who
>really need to hear the message of marxism,  might fall asleep if they had
>no other style of message to contemplate.
>
>For the benefit of anyone who was not able to open the attachment, and has
>an interest in this appeal, I will retype it and send it again.  The
>following was taken off the Marxist -Leninist -List, and I was responding
to
>a dialoge between Ben Seattle and Henry C.K. Liu - as far as I can make
out.
>Could someone please forward to MLL if the message never made it?  Forgive
>me if I have poor e-mail protocal, for I am still learning this.::::
>
>
>Dear Marxists,
>
>     I said when I signed on to this list that I did not want to cause any
>trouble here (just to the greedy pigs).  I am here to learn.  I am not well
>schooled in theory, I have just begun to educate myself in the alternative
>to capitalist economics.  I have picked out some of my favorite bits from
>this intriguing commentary, but I have some challenges and questions.
>Please help me to understand where I am wrong.
>
>From: Ben Seattle:
>
>Henry C.K. Liu-- 21.Apr.99:
>
>>If workers in a country like the US want to better understand the nature
of
>the >alternative to bourgeois rule before they will dedicate their lives to
>working for the >overthrow of this bourgeois rule--I believe that, to the
>best of our ablilities, we should >give to them such an understanding.
>
>
>Jennifer Young pleads:
>
>This is what I ask of you  on this list.  Help me to understand.
>
>
>?Liu?:
>
>>Real marxists don't denounce the guy who works with a wrench for being
>backward >and reactionary--they work tirelessly to bring him advance ideas
>and to help him in his >struggle against his capitalist employer.
>>
>>Genuine marxists seek to unite all section of the working class.
>
>
>Jennifer Young declares:
>
>
>I want to see the service industries in the United States unionized.  We
are
>the proletariat of the next century.
>
>
>Ben Seattle:
>
>>22 Apr 99A communist movement worthy of the name can only organize itself
>around >a theory fo workers' rule that is fit for the modern world.  But
>before this can happen, >charlatanism and denial must be smashed.
>
>>For this very reason, the class conscious proletariat must fight on the
>trade union >front.  It must fight to bring into being a situation where
the
>trade union form of >organization is in the hands of the working class.
>
>
>Jennifer Young cries out:
>
>
>>
>>The cashiers in your local convenience stores and other retailers who
>>take in the filthy lucre for the
>>pigs. The bed makers in the businessman's hotels. The temps that work
>>along side the regulars for a
>>fraction of their take, and no benefits. The children who sling the
>>sculpted margarine that passes for
>>edible food, who believe their condition is only temporary and the big
>>bucks can be found at the
>>next pig's trough. The day care workers who have the most valuable
>>position on this earth, but get
>>paid $5.75 per hour. The LPN's who care for our mother's and father's,
>>and who we will someday
>>be at the mercy of. And so on we toil. We are millions! We are obliged
>>to work two of these
>>thankless positions to pay the land barons. Credit is a joke to us, an
>>elusive dream. We reach for it
>>at our corner Check n' Rob, but we are stuck like flies on syrup.
>>Indefinite fodder for the capitalist
>>shark. Yes we are the proletariat of the Western future, but we are
>>blind to our potential. Television,
>>that devilish drug, promises a bright future for us all, if we will just
>>plug in and drop out.
>>
>>I have been told that we are difficult to organize. We are too young and
>>immature. We are
>>part-time, and high turnover. We are apathetic not exhausted. We won't
>>pay a significant amount of
>>union dues. What other excuses can those on this list add? Why is
>>organizing this pool of human
>>potential futile? I'd like to know.
>>
>>Chasing Windmills, Jennifer Young
>>
>
>
>POSTSCRIPT:  How about those spirited corporate cafeteria workers in New
>York I heard about on Public Radio today!  We are coming out folks!  Will
>you support us?
>
>
>POST POSTSCRIPT:  Would anyone care to help write a one page educational
>flyer that would stimulate the noggins of service industry workers and also
>teach basic rights regarding unions.  I have contacted my local Jobs with
>Justice and they have shown some interest in helping.  A Unified National
>Campain to at least educate folks is what I purpose.  Send ideas, comments,
>drafts, and suggestions:  < cleanbyrd@prodigy.net >
>
>
>

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