this is progressive?

Max Sawicky sawicky at epinet.org
Thu Apr 13 10:27:24 PDT 2000



>Either shape up or find a hobby.

Hey, Max, wait a minute. You mean you can't be part of this evolving movement - I like to think of myself as a member - and be critical of it too?
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[mbs] There is criticism and there is abstention. The post was conducive to abstention. Abstention bad, support good. Grunt.

" What the hell is Pat Buchanan doing at a labor rally?

[mbs[ profiting from the abstention of the left. Given a critical mass of the latter, properly focused on trade, Patsy wouldn't have been at the rally, nor would he have his own movement.


>>>By definition, anywhere he is isn't a sideshow - he's a major political
figure. You don't invite him to speak without making a statement by his presence.

[mbs] My contention is that he is a sideshow because his line is instrinsically unconstructive to the progress of a labor-based anti-globalization movement. You can't be ranting about 'world government' and support social clauses. You can't demand labor standards without some quid pro quo on debt relief. You can't be pro-labor and be prone to chauvinist attacks on people who have familial connections to the most dynamic wing of the U.S. labor movement. As people come to understand the near-term goals of the anti-global movement, they will see increasingly the irrelevance, if not counter-productive nature, of Buchanan.

It's not a matter of understanding how awful Buchanan is or his current political preeminence. It's a question of understanding the incongruence of the logical positive development of the movement to PB's perverse policy prescriptions.


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Becker's rhetoric is hideous too. You can criticize the Chinese regime without sounding like a xenophobe. The history of American economic nationalism is deeply wrapped up with Yellow Perilism, and it does no good to deny that.
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[mbs] That was then, and this is now. It does no good to dwell on it now either, when new shit is happening.


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Workers of the world unite, man. Doug
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Plant you now, dig you later.

mbs



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