USA: More Repressive Than North Korea (was Re: RES: a trip to North Korea)

Wojtek Sokolowski sokol at
Tue Apr 25 11:58:12 PDT 2000

At 02:04 PM 4/25/00 -0400, Doug wrote:
>I hate the US carceral state, but could you make similar statements
>about Cuba or NK in public in those countries without risk of being
>jailed? "Incomparably" freer? I'd say bourgeois democracy is a bit
>more complex & contradictory than you allow.

This is a false comparison, Doug, and I am surprised that you fall for that crap. You need to compare apples to apples, that is, countries under similar conditions. So to compare NK or Cuba to the US - you would have to perform a mental experiment of imagining the US being under similar conditions to the two countries in question, i.e. the same level of foreign threat, foreign induced economic instablity etc. - and then try to imagine how much bourgeois freedom you would have in the US in such a situation. My educated guess based on the behavior of US sponsored "democracies" is that you would probably end up in a torture chamber, a concentration camp, or being thrown out of a military helicopter. So would not you rather be in a Cuban jail instead?


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