USA: More Repressive Than North Korea (was Re: RES: a trip to North Korea)

Brad De Long delong at econ.Berkeley.EDU
Tue Apr 25 13:48:20 PDT 2000

>That's a pretty weird exercise. This thread seems to me about that
>ancient controversy, whether bourgeois democracy is a sham or not.
>For all its flaws, I'm on the non-sham side, and our resident
>Leninists seem to be on the sham side. Your counterfactuals are pure
>but empty mental exercises about which one could never say anything

I can understand people back in the mid-1920s claiming that "bourgeois democracy" was a sham, greatly inferior to "democratic centralism."

What I cannot understand is how anyone who knows anything about the power struggle between Stalin and Trotsky, or about Stalin's dictatorship can still believe that campaigns-and-elections are pointless or even not necessary.

Was it Abbe Sieyes who said, after the Restoration, that the Bourbons had learned nothing and forgotten nothing--learned nothing about politics or government from the Revolution, and forgotten none of the injuries to their people during the Revolution?

Brad DeLong --

-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- "Now 'in the long run' this [way of summarizing the quantity theory of money] is probably true.... But this long run is a misleading guide to current affairs. **In the long run** we are all dead. Economists set themselves too easy, too useless a task if in tempestuous seasons they can only tell us that when the storm is long past the ocean is flat again."

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