Class Warfare in the Info Age

Chuck Grimes cgrimes at
Mon Aug 28 00:13:42 PDT 2000

"tricking" the ruling class is even harder :-)

They aren't going to be "moved" by a better argument especially if on the plane of theory/policy/ whatever, the arguments are interminable. Politics isn't like physics and cultures are not experiments. Adjudicating rival claims on how to create a better society with quantification is the old Leibnizian dream. Even the metaphor of "forcing" them to change is misleading. Perhaps the only way to transcend zoon politikon is to morph a la Vonnegut's "Galapagos" and given reservations about GEing posthumanism we've got a lot of politics settle in for some fun and pain; exploring and struggling with how to create justice can be just as engaging as struggling to understand the beauty of plants and everything else that makes life rich with possibilities.

Ian Murray


Now, wait a gall darn minute here. We were talking about creating economic measures of a so-called information economy, and the arguments and demonstrations that attend them. The idea was to use those admittedly invented measures as a means to accomplish policy changes or at least argue them. The rationale is that if left economists don't produce these sorts of measures and arguments, then capital and their neoliberal lackies in government will and then those will be the rational means through which policy is justified and argued---as it already is. Nobody said nothing about Leibniz.

Of course if you are suggesting Molotov cocktails and Mosin Nagants, well these seem short on, I don't know, say discursive means?

Chuck Grimes

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