> > Eh? Jews (and Bolsheviks, and gays, and lesbians, and Poles, and
> > Russians, etc. etc.) were targeted for mass extermination because of
> > Nazi Germany's bizarre fiction of a master Aryan race. No racial
> > ideology, no Wehrmacht.
>
>Thank you, gentlemen. this is a good example of how the term "racism"
>creates confusion.
>
>first of all, the nazi's did not "create" any bizarre fictions of a master
>race (though the term "master race" itself seems to have been a nazi
>innovation). they elaborated on one that was created, and more publically
>discussed, among scientisct, intellectuals and the rest of the chattering
>classes, in the united states.
i think you fail to realize that most people here understand this. i haven't read one regular contributor who doesn't also realize that nazism and fasicsm were only extreme forms of what was taking place all over. and i think most folks agree that racialization (that's balibar's and zizek's and others' word for the process through which bodies are marked, etc) should point our analysis to those doing the racializing and not just those who have been racialized. i think that what is going on is that you are reading things into people's posts and assuming they are reading things into yours--and its just not there. it's what might explain why the disconnect in these conversations.
>secondly, i think what yoshie is getting at it that the term "racism" has
>usually been used in reference to the white/black situation in the u.s.(?)
last i checked, yoshie vigilantly upholds the notion of racism that you're attacking.
kelley