kyoto

Daniel Davies d_squared_2002 at yahoo.co.uk
Wed Dec 13 04:04:18 PST 2000


--- James Heartfield <Jim at heartfield.demon.co.uk> wrote
> On the lesser point, you are forced to misrepresent
> to make it, as was
> DiPoala.
>
> I said, the majority of signatories were outside of
> the field.
>
> DiPaola had me saying none of the signatories were
> in the field
>
> You, in a fudge have me saying that the petition was
> lite on
> climatologists. You are far too intelligent to hide
> behind a form of
> words.

I think that this is an equivocation over the term "in the field". DiPaola pointed out that the signatories who were not climatologists were nonetheless experts on climate change -- they were geographers, metereologists, atmospheric physicists and such. Since the report was on the potential *danger* of global warming, all these people had relevant experience to review their own bits. You're trying to imply that most of the signatories were just "Me too"s from areas like cellular biology or quantum mechanics.

Which they weren't.

Oh yeh, and this is a horse about ten hands too high:


> DiPaola had me saying none of the signatories were
> in the field

What the guy actually said was:

---"It's possible that fewer than 50% call themselves "climatologists", but it is disingenuous in the extreme to then say "The greater part of the nine hundred scientists who signed the Kyoto declaration were not climatologists, nor even in related fields." ---

Which is a direct quote from http://nuance.dhs.org/lbo-talk/current/0494.html

Your claim that "DiPaola had me saying none of the signatories were in the field" comes from this sentence, if it comes from anywhere; "First of all, no scientists of any type signedthe Kyoto "declaration.".

Which, in context, is an admittedly somewhat pissy way of making the point that it was called a Protocol, not a Declaration.

Knock it off. Particularly as the guy is, to coin a phrase, not subscribed to this list and so not able to defend himself. (ye gods, perhaps we should stop being so nasty to rehnquist and Scalia!)

dd

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