Technological Determinism

Rakesh Bhandari bhandari at phoenix.Princeton.EDU
Tue Feb 1 21:23:38 PST 2000


This debate about primacy of relations over forces of production (or visa versa) seems to go back to the Lukacs/Bukharin debate; then revived in the GA Cohen/Richard Miller controversy. And Postone has developed a very dense interpretation in which the question of primacy seems to be dissolved. So on whether Marx was a tech determinist, I'd say probably not..But was he careful student of technology, machinery, capital goods? Emphatically yes--see essays of Nathan Rosenberg. For Marx capitalism only gets off the ground when machines are used to produce machines--a phenomenon that Adolph Lowe took seriously enough to make the foundation of his economic dynamics (see Path of Economic Growth).

It's probably hard for us Marxists to admit how much our philosopher king was changed by reading Ure and Babbage, stalwart defenders of laissez faire. But Marx took over 70 excerpts in long hand written notes from Babbage in 1845. It may well have been a turning point in his thinking--though this has not been commented on in English as far as I know. Maybe the Hegelian dialectic is easier to understand than the operation of the difference engine, so the problem of philosophical foundations has remained central. His first major economic work Poverty of Philosophy shows already a deep appreciation of how the machine age had rendered Proudon's ideas of socialism antiquated (see chapter 2, section 2); in a similar vein, Marcuse argued more than 100 years later on the basis of very little evidence (but the attempt to think his time in terms of its technological possibilities is interesting) that automation of the tasks of operators and assembly line workers meant the development of the working class henceforth as sophisticated machine makers and technicians who would suffer none of the physical privation of industrial work and achieve integration (despite continued 'alienation') in the capitalist system. Yet now machine design is being rapidly automated while the machine operator has hardly disappeared.

At any rate, the influence of Ure and Babbage on Marx is clear.

Two great influences on Marx were Babbage's Economy of Machinery and Manufacture and (to raise another set of concerns) the anti Ricardian deeply conservative Richard Jones' political economy of historical rent systems (to which Marx devotes a whole chapter in Theories of Surplus Value because it is the last work to have grasped clearly the historical distinctiveness of capitalism in terms of its relations of exploitation--GA Cohen hardly mentions him, just as he ignores the Ethnological Notebooks). yet is there a *single* history of economic thought in which both these giants of the 19th century are discussed in any detail (Babbage and Jones)! Marx would have surely been disappointed. Marx learned much from this empirical historian of labor systems as well as the great student of modern technology.

He surely wouldn't have wanted to resolve the question about the primacy of the relations over the forces as an abstract philosophical question without a careful empirical specification of each.

yrs, rakesh



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