Is Apartheid/Economic Growth a Positive Sum Game (Jim O'C)

Charles Brown CharlesB at CNCL.ci.detroit.mi.us
Wed Feb 2 12:09:31 PST 2000


What about America ? The standard of living (just living) went way down for the indigenous peoples of America in its industrialization, didn't it ?

CB


>>> Brad De Long <delong at econ.berkeley.edu> 02/02/00 09:41AM >>>
> > Brad de Long wrote:
>> Nevertheless, the first industrial nation--Britain--is the only one
>> for which you can plausibly argue that median standards of living
>> fell during the process of industrialization. That tells me
>> something...
>
>Brad, add South Africa and Zimbabwe! Capitalist industrialisation
>"needed" an articulation of modes of production between the
>mines/factories/plantations and artificially pre-capitalist
>"bantustan" zones where rural women and the environment provided a
>nice site of superexploitation in the reproduction of ultra-cheap
>labour power. More negative externalities, writ huge on the
>socio-ecological fabric. I'd guess (who can really measure!) that the
>median went way down from the 1890s through at least the 1950s as
>this system's logic fully unfolded.
>Patrick Bond

Thanks...



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