Beethoven was an entrepreneur

Charles Brown CharlesB at CNCL.ci.detroit.mi.us
Fri Feb 18 14:26:41 PST 2000


You are not all together straight forward in what you say below. "tune" should be in quotes, as you are using it metaphorically. Marx isn't really talking about music in what you quote. You are extrapolating to music from what he is talking about , and it is not clear that your extrapolation establishes the principles that you want to.

Also, being an entrepreneur in Beethovan's lifetime was not an utterly reactionary thing. The bourgeoisie still had some of their revolutionary character in that time period. I'd even say that Beethovan's music reflects some of the progressivity of the bourgeoisie. Sort of like Hegel. So his being bourgeois or middle class doesn't mar his composition.

But I have no problem with composing the music as well as enjoying it.

CB


>>> Hinrich Kuhls <kls at mail.online-club.de> 02/17/00 04:33PM >>>
>Beethovan was an entrepreneur. That doesn't make his music bad.

Crackle and splutter! If you would have listened to this melody in the way of: "Aristotle was not a slave. That doesn't make his philosophy bad" - you would have noticed the discord.

The signature tune sounds like this:

"Really free working, e.g. composing, is at the same time precisely the most damned seriousness, the most intense exertion. The work of material production can achieve this character only (1) when it's social character is posited, (2) when it is of a scientific and at the same time general character, not merely human exertion as a specifically harnessed natrual force, but exertion as subject, which appears in the production process not in a merely natural, spontaneous form, but as an activity regulating all the forces of nature." (Marx, Grundrisse, p. 611-612)

"On the basis of communal production, the determination of time remains, of course essential. The less time the society requires to produce wheat, cattle, etc., the more time it wins for other production, material or mental. Just as in the case of an individual, the multiplicity of its development, its enjoyment and its activity depends on economizaton of time.

"Economy of time, to this all economy ultimately reduces itself. Society likewise has to distribute its time in a purposeful way, in order to achieve a production to its overall needs; just as the individual has to distribute his time correctly in order to achieve knowledge in proper proportions in order to satisfy the various demands on his activity.

"Thus, economy of time, along with the planned distribution of labour time among the various branches of production, remains the first economic law on the basis of communal production. It becomes law, there, to an even higher degree." (Marx, Grundrisse, p. 172-173)

Let's not only enjoy the music, let's compose it.

HK



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