FROP etc

Ken Hanly khanly at mb.sympatico.ca
Mon Feb 21 18:46:57 PST 2000


It is surely Althusser who is responsible for the break nonsense. Not only could Althusser not write, but he couldn't read either. Or maybe his local library did not have the Grundrisse.

CHeers, Ken Hanly

kelley wrote:


> jlgulick:
>
> >> I have long been skeptical of Frankfurtian-type claims that Marx's
> >> discourse is riddled w/instrumental-rationalism or Prometheanism, or
> >> that there is some fundamental break between an early humanist Marx
> >> and a late "economistic" Marx.
>
> dennis:
> >This may be Habermas' position, but Adorno makes it absolutely clear that
> >Marx was critiquing the economic laws of capital, not defending such as
> >the key to human happiness. Just as Marx was far more Marxist than most of
> >his followers realized, so too were the Frankfurters far more Marxist than
> >their self-proclaimed followers.
>
> i don't know where anyone got the impression that the frankfurter's or
> habermas posited some fundamental break!? much of the work was about
> making a link between the early and later work, to demonstrate a kind of
> logic that explains the connections but not as some sort of progressive
> "correcting" of work that he later went on to reject. they denouced, more,
> it seems to me the marxist contemporaries who subscribed to an overly
> economistic marxism and tried to examine the development of capitalism as
> also involving the process of rationalization which took place
> organizationally and institutionally, rather than simply culturally as
> weber as examined it. that is, they were locating a material basis for the
> cultural rationalization that weber explored.
>
> kelley



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