"Economic Nationalism"? (was Re: Who Killed Vincent Chin?)

[Yoshie Furuhashi]

Angela:
>>There's nothing particularly vague about the deformation that Nestor was
>>referring to.  Allende could have been overthrown without the U.S.
>>intervention, but not so easily.  ...
>
>no doubt.  but this is the point.  US intervention, on the side of the
>failing ruling class of Chile, was not an instance of the deformation of
>chilean nationalism as it is in your and nestor's terms, but rather the use
>of US resources and force in the service of putting down anti-capitalist
>movements and reforms in chile, and by implication in the region.   so,
>i'll repeat what i've been saying all along: what was "vague" was NOT the
>political and economic realities that led to pinochet's rule, but rather
>nestor's invokation of an imaginary nationalism that might have existed
>outside imperial and colonial history had latin america, africa, etc had
>their own periods of absolutism.  ie., THIS NOSTALGIA is rhetorical,
>necessarily vague and ignores the centrality of absolutism in constructing
>the enclosures which formed the basis both of nation-states and without
>which proletarianisation would have been impossible.  (read perry
>anderson's _lineages of the absolutist state_, for instance, as well as
>linebaugh's most recent book whose title and co-author i forget.)  and,
>since this isn't a set of co-ordinates one intends to plug into a time
>machine to hurtle entire regions back to the middle ages, it's nothing more
>than an apologia for the capitalist state.

Well, if you think that Nestor was posting "an apologia for the capitalist
state," I really have nothing more to say to you.  That's _beyond_ mere
disagreement.  Thanks anyway for your replies, though -- they have
clarified for me what you think of Marxists who think like Nestor in the
periphery.  Apparently, you think you know more about imperialism than they
do, and those who fail to agree with you, and, worse yet, commit a sin of
thinking that their respective countries could have been better places had
leftists not been prevented by imperialists from taking power, are
afflicted with "nostalgia."...

Yoshie