Or for you Johnny Bulls, there are the numerous times that Winston Churchill identified himself in writing to American's as a socialist. :o)
If you visit the USDA(US Dept. of Agriculture) website and read their pro-China PNTR spin at face value; it looks to me like China would have to take about 20% of their agricultural cropland out of production to arrive at the numbers the USDA claims that we will gain in exports to China. The only thing the USDA has going for it is the possibility that China might pursue a policy of this nature(taking 20% of their cropland out of production)---there's plenty of precedent for it other "communist" and former "communist" societies. And they could take care of their population problem at the same time--through starvation.
Tom Lehman
Mark Jones wrote:
> Sorry, Tom, but what's you're point here?
>
> Mark Jones
> http://www.egroups.com/group/CrashList
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-lbo-talk at lists.panix.com
> > [mailto:owner-lbo-talk at lists.panix.com]On Behalf Of Tom Lehman
> > Sent: 01 May 2000 17:17
> > To: lbo-talk at lists.panix.com
> > Subject: Re: China
> >
> >
> > Mark--Why do you think American corporatists and the
> > multinational corporations
> > want China pntr so bad for...so they can do good by the Chinese?
> >
> > I've got some thoughts on this whole corporatist-communist set up and I'm
> > waiting for some Republican/Democrat politician to declare, "We
> > are all Marxists
> > now." :o)
> >
> > Tom
> >
> > Mark Jones wrote:
> >
> > > On the question of how wonderful or nor the Chinese
> > state-capitalist boom
> > > is, one good starting point is still Mark Hertsgaard's 1997
> > Atlantic Monthly
> > > piece: "The price of China's surging economy is a vast
> > degradation of the
> > > environment, with planetary implications. Although the Chinese
> > government
> > > knows the environment needs protection, writes the author, who spent six
> > > weeks inside China investigating the growing environmental
> > crisis, it fears
> > > that doing the right thing could be political suicide"
> > > url: http://www.theatlantic.com/issues/97nov/china.htm
> > >
> > > Mark Jones
> > > http://www.egroups.com/group/CrashList
> >
> >