Immiseration my eye

Carrol Cox cbcox at ilstu.edu
Tue May 2 11:38:19 PDT 2000


Jacob Segal wrote:


> (snip)
> If so, why does Marx appear to write in the Manifesto that the declining
> living standard is a spur to the revolution.

Maybe because he thought so then. Maybe because a Manifesto (and it was the Manifesto of a particular political organization, which Marx & Engels wrote *on assignment* from the Central Committee of that organization) is hardly the place for developing the fine points of theory. Maybe a thousand other reasons including a boil on his ass even then.


> I hardly think workers would
> so clearly know to revolt if their wages were going up in absolute terms,
> no matter what their share of profits.

I suppose "so clarly know to revolt" is a clumsiness such as is inevitable on an e-list, but I don't know what you mean by it.

It is a commonplace (held by many bourgeois as well as marxist thinkers) that revolution is most apt to happen when there has been at least *some* improvement in conditions. That is one reason I hope the present boom continues for quite a while or that no major economic collapse occurs at least. It would fuck up radical political action just as it seems to be stirring a bit.

Carrol

P.S. Whether Marx did or did not predict absolute immiseration is primarily a philological and biographical, not political issue. Certainly no Marxist I know today holds to such a thesis or bases his/her political theory on it.



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