Waiting for Stalingrad

Justin Schwartz jkschw at hotmail.com
Fri Nov 3 14:09:40 PST 2000


Wonderful book, very influential for me when I was in high school. haven't read it in decades. --jks


>From: "Steve Perry" <sperry at usinternet.com>
>Reply-To: lbo-talk at lists.panix.com
>To: <lbo-talk at lists.panix.com>
>Subject: RE: Waiting for Stalingrad
>Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 11:57:09 -0600
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>anyone here ever read walter karp's book indispensable enemies? it's a long
>essay on the collusion of the two political parties, and its underlying
>thesis is that what matters most to political bosses is not a matter of
>winning or losing elections but of maintaining their own hegemony over the
>party hierarchy--which means, above all else, keeping mavericks and
>newcomers out of the mix. i agree with max: this is not about a marketplace
>of ideas in which dlc neoliberalism is about to lose ground. it's about the
>political control of the party itself (and, as always, the interests of the
>party's principal funders, who after all *made* these folks the center of
>the party).
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-lbo-talk at lists.panix.com
>[mailto:owner-lbo-talk at lists.panix.com]On Behalf Of Max Sawicky
>Sent: Friday, November 03, 2000 11:17 AM
>To: lbo-talk at lists.panix.com
>Subject: RE: Waiting for Stalingrad
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>. . .
>One thing I'm definitely looking forward to, assuming that Gore is indeed
>defeated, is the elimination of the Democratic Leadership Council as a
>significant force in U.S. politics. The DLC's centrist strategy will be
>completely discredited. Carl
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>Forget it. They ain't going away. If Gore loses
>they will chalk it up to his individual shortcomings,
>his populist vibrations, and, if possible, the Nader
>effect.
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>They'll be around as long as the center is where
>the votes are.
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>mbs
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