Sober & Vegan (... le plus que je veux faire la revolution....)

Gordon Fitch gcf at panix.com
Sat Nov 4 15:21:56 PST 2000


Gordon:
>> There's nothing sad about being a vegan or a vegetarian,
>> at least not to my personal observation. I've already
>> mentioned the predominance of women in my little world.

Yoshie Furuhashi:
> Vegans & vegetarians themselves are quite happy; sadness is a feeling
> generated in the hearts of the non-vegan & non-vegetarian friends of
> theirs who want to go out to lunch or dinner with them.

Where, Burger King? Come to the Big City and I will show you a restaurant or two where vegetarians and carnivores can joyfully coexist.


>> I think this is because we're not taken seriously enough. If
>> a bunch of anarchists or socialists have a drug-soaked orgy,
>> who cares? It's just what's expected.


> Compare the Nader non-sex-scandal with what Alexandra Kollontai had
> to go through. We are not on the sexual vanguard any longer.
> Progress?

Is there a sexual vanguard any more? I would say it had gone the way of the avant-garde in the arts. If Ralph is celibate, he's probably about as weird as you can be these days.



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