>Messsage du 17/11/2000 22:48
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>Objet : Re: Re: White Males
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Doug's proposal that
> these people are simply unwilling to give up gender
> and race privileges is a good example of the left
> missing the point.
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> Adam
I basically agree with you on this point. That said, i don't think Doug missed the point, only that his point needs to be significantly qualified. i think it is true that in a very nasty, very competitive society, white men are indeed unwilling to give up gender and "race" priviledges. Their are still social, economic and poltical benefits, ranging from petty to significant to tremendous, accorded white men. The problem is that increasingly, white male priviledge, especially for poor and "middle-class" white men, is less about what you get and more about what does NOT happen to you. The nature of alienation from self--which is what being "white" is all about, not to mention being a white prole--is that depending on the social and historical circumstances, white men are sometimes more conscious of thier priviledge and sometimes less so. The "racist"/"not-racist" paradigm that the left uses to understand these people is analytically impoverished and, therefore, useless in any e! ffort to build a movement against the tendendy that both victimizes them and that they represent.
chris niles
the new abolitionist
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