Determinism

Jim Farmelant farmelantj at juno.com
Mon Oct 9 17:03:01 PDT 2000


Patrick,

You might wish to try the Marxists Intenet Archive at (http://www.marxists.org) where you should be able to find online many of the classic Marxist texts concerning historical materialism. Louis Proyect's website (http://www.marxmail.org) is another good place to look since it not only has links to most of the major Marxist sites on the web but it also has itself plenty of material on historical materialism and you might find it of intererest to persue its archives of past discussions on historical materilaism.

Jim Farmelant

On Mon, 9 Oct 2000 11:34:16 -0500 "Patrick F. Durgin" <pdurgin at acsu.buffalo.edu> writes:
> Thanks for this. &, well, I'm *also* interested in *historical*
> materialism, which sounds fuzzy re: my interests. To clarify, the
> point is
> to wade around in the most disparate theories of determinism &
> indeterminism
> in philosophy (political, metaphysical, physical, aesthetics) as a
> way of
> figuring extreme left artists like Joseph Beuys and Jackson Mac Low.
> So, I
> think my approach is novel, which seems, at this point, rather
> fuzzy, even
> (or especially) to me.
> Anything else up yr sleeve?
> Patrick
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <JKSCHW at aol.com>
> To: <lbo-talk at lists.panix.com>
> Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 8:56 AM
> Subject: Determinism
>
>
> > In a message dated 10/8/00 9:47:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> > pdurgin at acsu.buffalo.edu writes:
> >
> > << 1) The core philosophical texts of 'Determinism' are ... ? >>
> >
> > Jesus, it's been a long time since I thought of this stuff. In
> early
> modern
> > philosophy there is de la Mettrie's Man a Machine; Hume discusses
> the
> > compatibilist line. Kant's practical philosophy is a prolonged
> attempt to
> > wriggle out from under the implications of hard determinism. In
> modern
> times,
> > John Hospers wrote a detense of hard determinism, as has, more
> recently,
> Ted
> > Honderich (called, I think, determinism).
> >
> > There's a classic collection, now rather old, Free Will and
> Determinism,
> ed.
> > Bernard Berofsky (Harper 1966): Sidney Hook has an anthology from
> the same
> > vintage. More recently there is a little collection in the Oxford
> Readings
> in
> > Philosophy series called Free Will, I forget the editor. Richard
> Taylor,
> in
> > his Metaphysics, Prentice Hall, as an important view. \\
> >
> > This is all free will and determinism stuff. For What Is
> Determinism, and
> if
> > you are into heavy going, John Earman, a brilliant philosopher of
> physics,
> > has a book called Determinsim, discusses whether classical
> mechnaics is
> > deterministic. Or are you interested in __historical_ determinism?
> --jks
>

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