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>Offhand I don't have a quick understanding of Gramscian consent (maybe I'm
>missing a vital distinction between subjection and subjugation that would
>clear this up). If you mean to say that I support whole-heartedly
>ideological hegemonic force at the expense of others, I would say that you
>have
>misunderstood. I take consensus to mean radical exclusion in the name
>of universal inclusion.
that's not what gramsci means by rule by consensus.
>My understanding of what i was talking about is this:
>in order to "live" with others requires a certain degree of surrender,
>subjection.
surrender of what exactly ken? it's a surrender, actually, of nothing.
>In order to speak, on must subject ones thoughts and dreams to
>language.
one doesn't have thoughts and dreams prior to language.
>I enjoy being the butt of a good joke, being
>subject to a fair degree of humiliation at my expense.
hmmm should i wear big floppy shoes and a big red clown nose when i spank you?
>I do it to myself
>sometimes (I am, after all, an idiot).
but you DO have taste.
kelley