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>>> The unconscious knows things in a way that the conscious self does not...
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>> How do you know this?
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> Because breathing happens whether I consciously think about it or not. Desires
> alone don't make the body go, the drives do.
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This assumes there is a "conscious self" able to know how the unconscious knows and hence able to know that "the unconscious knows things in a way that the conscious self does not". This conscious self is able to know things in the way the unconscious does, isn't it?
>>> Well, if you're saying that psychobabble simply makes things up... there is
>>> a
>>> tremendous amount of clinical evidence that points to the contrary...
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>> This presupposes a subject for whom evidence can point to something, doesn't
> it? For whom can evidence point to the non-existence of any subject for whom
> evidence could point?
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> Psychobabble doesn't presuppose a subject. It simply asks the question "Who is
> speaking?" As it turns out, there is never just one voice, there are many
> voices. And, try as I might, I can't figure out what your last sentence means.
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Who speaks "psychobabble"? If the answer to this question is "unconscious and multiple speakers within the self", the speaker of psychobabble is not a self able to ground what it says in evidence.
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