>NYC is a perfect example of the limited usefulness of gun control
>laws: you basically couldn't have stronger gun laws in NYC.
And actually NYC has a pretty low crime rate compared to other big cities, and had even during the worst of the crack years.
Doug
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violent crime rates per 100,000 population, 1997
violent
crimes murder rape robbery assault District of Columbia 2,023.8 56.9 41.2 850.5 1,075.2 New Orleans, LA 1,720.3 54.7 78.8 813.1 773.8 Detroit, MI 2,151.5 45.9 94.8 803.6 1,207.3 Baltimore, MD 2,420.3 43.4 66.7 1,199.2 1,111.1 St. Louis, MO 2,542.5 40.6 59.6 946.9 1,495.4 Birmingham, AL 1,375.2 39.2 80.7 485.8 769.5 Atlanta, GA 3,048.5 35.6 87.0 1,128.9 1,797.0 Chicago, IL 2,262.1 27.4 914.3 1,320.4 Miami, FL 2,813.7 26.3 48.2 1,153.0 1,586.2 Oakland, CA 2,184.5 26.3 81.2 924.4 1,152.7 Louisville, KY 1,112.2 22.4 46.3 559.0 484.5 Kansas City, MO 1,895.5 22.1 92.2 599.7 1,181.5 Memphis, TN 1,856.7 21.6 147.1 822.0 865.9 Newark, NJ 2,734.7 21.6 64.3 1,302.5 1,346.4 Nashville, TN 1,746.7 21.1 103.4 485.6 1,136.7 Dallas, TX 1,383.8 19.4 69.0 522.0 773.4 Milwaukee, WI 1,053.0 19.4 48.8 565.3 419.4 Indianapolis, IN 1,132.3 18.7 71.0 427.9 614.8 Los Angeles, CA 1,596.5 16.3 39.9 579.1 961.3 Minneapolis, MN 1,850.1 15.9 147.3 909.0 777.9 Cleveland, OH 1,458.6 15.5 128.5 772.6 542.1 Fort Worth, TX 902.5 15.5 55.5 293.4 538.2 Fresno, CA 1,205.0 15.1 48.4 452.1 689.4 Phoenix, AZ 884.9 14.9 36.5 317.7 515.8 Buffalo, NY 1,284.5 14.7 73.6 702.6 493.6 Pittsburgh, PA 786.4 14.2 49.5 436.8 285.9 Houston, TX 1,174.5 14.1 43.9 452.2 664.3 Columbus, OH 933.5 13.1 108.5 484.0 327.9 Denver, CO 672.3 13.1 67.7 238.3 353.2 Long Beach, CA 944.5 12.6 28.1 415.1 488.8 Oklahoma City, OK 1,073.0 12.5 86.6 295.9 677.9 Tampa, FL 2,663.8 11.7 88.4 846.7 1,717.1 Albuquerque, NM 1,317.1 11.4 62.6 401.1 841.9 Jacksonville, FL 1,343.3 10.7 86.3 337.2 909.1 Sacramento, CA 968.2 10.7 41.9 482.1 433.4 Charlotte-Mecklenburg, NC 1,630.8 10.5 61.4 483.3 1,075.6 New York City, NY 1,268.5 10.5 29.5 610.7 617.8 Tulsa, OK 1,204.3 10.5 72.8 240.3 880.7 Tucson, AZ 1,052.8 10.3 59.9 297.6 685.1 Wichita, KS 833.4 10.1 72.2 281.9 469.1 Portland, OR 1,604.4 9.7 75.2 411.2 1,108.3 San Antonio, TX 401.7 9.2 59.5 196.1 136.9 Anchorage, AK 738.9 9.0 68.1 196.0 465.9 Santa Ana, CA 675.2 9.0 30.5 327.6 308.1 Seattle, WA 914.1 9.0 39.8 380.3 485.0 St. Paul, MN 886.6 8.9 85.2 308.3 484.2 Omaha, NE 1,385.4 8.8 50.0 232.6 1,094.0 St. Petersburg, FL 2,098.4 8.4 80.2 500.9 1,508.9 San Francisco, CA 1,133.5 7.8 30.9 610.7 484.1 Boston, MA 1,420.8 7.7 63.1 491.5 858.5 Toledo, OH 823.1 7.7 72.0 337.6 405.9 Austin, TX 645.7 7.3 51.8 235.1 351.5 Aurora, CO 621.1 6.4 83.5 187.7 343.5 Corpus Christi, TX 984.1 6.2 52.9 146.9 778.2 San Diego, CA 827.7 5.7 32.5 220.2 569.4 Anaheim, CA 678.1 5.2 34.5 280.3 358.0 San Jose, CA 736.6 5.1 44.6 108.0 578.8 Virginia Beach, VA 239.7 4.3 23.0 116.0 96.4 Arlington, TX 797.4 4.0 41.8 173.6 577.9 El Paso, TX 791.3 3.9 36.7 174.0 576.7 Honolulu, HI 299.5 3.9 29.2 137.9 128.5 Mesa, AZ 728.5 3.7 35.9 128.4 560.5
unweighted mean 1,321.6 16.1 63.8 495.7 747.0 median 1,154.0 12.1 61.4 444.5 641.1